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Sweet Mystery · Aug 26, 2008, 07:39 AM // 07:39

People who feel they have to write swear words to say something on a game just need to learn you can speak it and not type it....

If you feel you have to swear at people and be abusive, then be prepared to possibly be banned for doing so if reported....

Respect others and don't swear.... use other language to convey your meanings.....

Chocobo1 · Aug 26, 2008, 07:48 AM // 07:48

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Yes, that is why you swore (and was blocked by the filter) multiple times in your openning post, because you don't swear all the time and only do it on one off occassions.
/sarcasm

Havent posted here, was more experimenting with your whole fire engine thing which made me lol. Meh, swear words aren't a big deal to me at all anyway, not saying it has to be everyone view.

Also, 7 =/= teen either so my point still stands lol <3

Abedeus · Aug 26, 2008, 07:50 AM // 07:50

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Also, 7 =/= teen either so my point still stands lol <3

The hell it stands. Teen = 12-17, Mature is 18+. I know, it doesn't make much difference, I mean, you are acting like a 12 year old - you think you are always right and everyone should do as you do.

Besides, you have showed us in this thread that you "don't swear". Then why did you already insult something around 7-8 people?

MithranArkanere · Aug 26, 2008, 10:45 AM // 10:45

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Originally Posted by Dr.Jones

because a gun and bad language are on par with each other...... no argument about who's fault it is but when it comes to lange i have never had anyone say anything to me that was so harmful/ hateful that botherd me for a week and that's because the people i am playing with don't know me because its a game! and belive me people have said a lot of shity things about me in my guild. but i dont care about what they say because they dont know me. and none of you know me.

the grate thing about the internet is you could be chating with some one who in real live you would have never talked to in a million years. you cant see race or sexualty, or what sex they are over the internet. the only information you know about some one else is the infromation they tell you.

You are looking at this the other way around again.

How people speak in guilds and alliances is that guild and alliances problem.
People talk differently when they are at home, with their friends or with strangers.

It's in local, trade channel and also whisper and party with strangers where you must behave.

It's not: "I don't know them, they don't know me: I don't care, they should not care, and anyone complaining should shut up".

It's: "I don't know them, they don't know me: I must behave, I must expect them to behave, and anyone not behaving must be punished".

carnage-runner · Aug 26, 2008, 06:36 PM // 18:36

Ok, I've got 3 word bans to date. Last one was 1 week, and I had it repealed because it was agrovated and it was coppied by the recipiant. Word filter should be automatically enabled. If you have a problem with swear words, then leave your filter on. If you don't have a problem with swear words, take it off. Racist comments are "swear words". They should modify the filter, and then remove the report function. I'm tired of watching my mouth in La. I'm 20, I can say w/e the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO I want whenever the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO I want to. Got a problem with it, Filter me, Ignore me, or turn of that chat. Problem solved.

Signed 200140000 times because I'm sick of little RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOers getting me banned.

It's time for a change, swear words are imature? W/e, if I want to swear I should be aloud to. Telling mommy and daddy is pretty damn immature if you ask me. So who's more immature, the tattler, or the swearer. Answer that before you flame on me, I'll crush you with intellect.

carnage-runner · Aug 26, 2008, 07:33 PM // 19:33

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Originally Posted by Koudelka

Oh my.
Let's get back on topic: Report function won't be changed, as it's used to uphold the user agreement. If you think having no control over your language is mature...

Topic: User agreement would be upheld under the default settings.

I can control my language quite easily. Should I have to is my concern. Say I really really hate it when some Christian preaches his values to me, can I denounce his faith in GWChat? No, I'll get a ban. If someone scams me, screws me up, or insults me, can I respond? No, I'll get a ban. See the pattern? I want to be able to speak freely. Censors are in place for a reason. To censor that which one who enables it does not want heard/seen. Don't tell me to get vent, because I've already been on vent with many different guilds and social structures. It's different obviously but its also aside from the game.

imnotyourmother · Aug 26, 2008, 07:35 PM // 19:35

Back to the message of the thread. Responsibility for ones actions. You swear you get reported = ban

Master Fuhon · Aug 26, 2008, 07:55 PM // 19:55

Integrity is being consistent with internal beliefs about proper behavior. Lacking integrity is having a good mouth that you use in front of people you want to impress, and using the bad mouth whenever you are sure it won't come back to hurt you.

Having integrity or morals is a very safe way to live. You can choose to have no morals and find out that many others are better at stealing, hurting, or lying than you are. Or you can have morals, and find out that there are other people who are willing to stand up for you. The game company is watching out for you, just like they are watching out for the more sensitive players. They can let us all rot if they wanted to save resources.

Mommy and daddy is the video game companty to more than a few players. They don't respond to right/wrong/integrity stuff. They respond to discipline in the form of punishment. Consider the ban a smaller punishment than you could face swearing at a guy in a bar while drunk. You can earn a week icing your jaw every time you exercise your free right to swear at people.

Maybe you just slipped up and swore in front of a guy's kids, and now the kid just repeats the word. Turns out removing swearing from your vocabulary isn't much of a sacrifice to make and it decreases the amount of risk you face in the real world.

You also don't win any points making fun of a religion you don't believe in. Internet = plugged in with the rest of the crazy world, just not connected.

carnage-runner · Aug 26, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05

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Originally Posted by Master Fuhon

Maybe you just slipped up and swore in front of a guy's kids, and now the kid just repeats the word. Turns out removing swearing from your vocabulary isn't much of a sacrifice to make and it decreases the amount of risk you face in the real world.

You also don't win any points making fun of a religion you don't believe in. Internet = plugged in with the rest of the crazy world, just not connected.

Finally someone with a head on his/her shoulders. If I slipped in front of a kid, it wasn't my slip, it was the owner of the accounts slipup for not setting the chat filter on. Removing swear words from my vocabulary is irrelivant. Sometimes one needs to speak using agressive words to emphasize a point, or to give more direct implications.

I am not going for points, I'm going for logic. If someone wants to insult me and use religion as his grounds for reason in doing so, he's gonna get some of my medicine right back at him... Don't give me a reason to swear, and I wont do it. Seeing as everyone gives me a reason to swear at one time or another, I'll keep the trend up. Watch this, RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO, see how easy that was to ignore. Now you know I just said that word at you, but if you were 11 you'd probably think it humerous. My point... Chat Filter needs a serious upgrade.

BFG · Aug 27, 2008, 12:16 AM // 00:16

It all comes down to simple consideration of others, at which evidently many fail. The chat filter and report system are fine as implemented.

/unsigned

carnage-runner · Aug 27, 2008, 01:35 AM // 01:35

Precisely. Make the game universal, not one dimensional. "You can't do that or else." Well look at it logically... Why can't you just let us do it, and force the smaller minority to not see it. The majority wants to swear, the minority doesn't want to swear. Pretty simple if you ask me.

carnage-runner · Aug 27, 2008, 02:49 AM // 02:49

Oh well w/e... People can say that we are instilling our views on you.. I am. But at least my views make some sense... Majority wins over Minority.... PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Most gamers swear, want to swear, or want to kill Anet and the Tattle Taler for getting us banned. I am saying, upgrade the filter to the point of it actually working. I don't want to have to watch every word I utter because some 8 year old got on to a computer. RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO the community, the community is what it is. And in this said community there is a damn chat filter that can be utilized to protect your evangelic eyes from the hellacious vocabulary that anyone who plays video games most definately has.

Accursed · Aug 27, 2008, 03:36 AM // 03:36

I'm 13. I here swearing all the time. I don't cuss unless someone said a racial comment directly to me or if get very frustrated which isn't very often.

But you can't just take out the whole Reporting Option from the entire game from your one F-bomb. Someone cannot report for one little F-bomb unless your saying it to them.

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

If they do ban for swearing without directing it anyone or being offensive, they should stop, because it makes the report option false, and the language filter pointless.

If the GM does do this, then I would wish that they would be fired from the Official ArenaNet gaming company.

gremlin · Aug 27, 2008, 06:12 AM // 06:12

Its very sad when threads are closed for any reason other than the question being solved.

Whether its because the original question was a problem, or because it starts a flame war.
Try to stay on topic and not let the flamers win out otherwise it becomes an easy way for some to prevent discussion on any topic they disagree with.

Everyone dislikes limits or boundaries to their activities and enjoys testing those boundaries.
The language filter is ok as it is and I believe it is updated as needed, but people are inventive and can get around any barrier if they work at it.

Its no big deal as long as it doesn't get out of hand and mostly it doesn't and please don't bring religion into it there is a place for religion and that's in your heart not in a computer game.

What defines a swear word is very much a cultural thing and good old fashioned cussing isn't anything to be ashamed of but doing it front of impressionable people isn't a great idea.

Point is we never know when online who we are interacting with just keep it in proportion.

carnage-runner · Aug 27, 2008, 06:17 AM // 06:17

Well spoken gremlin.. We are straying from the point.. We should all realize that the game has a language filter already in place, and though some of us (yours truly) don't neccessarily agree with it's performance, it is what it is and is extremely unlikely to change. There is a place for ideals, and that is in your own home, I do not need them in mine. Good old fashioned cussing will always exist, and everyone gets mad from time to time. My only serious problem is I can make someone feel 10 times worse without "swearwords" than I can with them... A swear word is an easy way to express anguish or anger. It gets it out and over with quick, whereas not swearing can turn it into an extremely ugly, albeit clean, insult. I don't care about limits and boundries and inventive people. I care about not being able to use some choice words because some impressionables don't have the decency to turn on their filter.

I resort back to the plain and simple argument that will never be disproved.

If you don't like it, turn on the filter, or f12.

Chocobo1 · Aug 27, 2008, 06:28 AM // 06:28

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Originally Posted by carnage-runner

Well spoken gremlin.. We are straying from the point.. We should all realize that the game has a language filter already in place, and though some of us (yours truly) don't neccessarily agree with it's performance, it is what it is and is extremely unlikely to change. There is a place for ideals, and that is in your own home, I do not need them in mine. Good old fashioned cussing will always exist, and everyone gets mad from time to time. My only serious problem is I can make someone feel 10 times worse without "swearwords" than I can with them... A swear word is an easy way to express anguish or anger. It gets it out and over with quick, whereas not swearing can turn it into an extremely ugly, albeit clean, insult. I don't care about limits and boundries and inventive people. I care about not being able to use some choice words because some impressionables don't have the decency to turn on their filter.

I resort back to the plain and simple argument that will never be disproved.

If you don't like it, turn on the filter, or f12.

Exactly, I can easily make someone feel x3 crappier than I could with swear words. They make you look like a 13 year old when you use them as an insult. But when crap goes wrong, and your having a rage then it really does just express the situation. The whole wanting it closed for the religion thing is because this thread got really of course with that, and people will just resume that argument instead of anwsering new posts.

Swearing will never stop in this game, and the idiots who report will never learn to just keep there filters on. Yes, its that simple. Maybe even when you create an account it asks for your age and if your under 16 you have filter set on normal and under 14 you have it set on max. Something to just protect the little ones so the older ones can feel free to express themselves maturely.

Avarre · Aug 27, 2008, 11:59 AM // 11:59

I am in favor of the language filter being removed so I can properly express my outrage at the posts in this thread.

There is no freedom of speech here, and if you can't discuss this reasonably, you'll lose speech altogether.

imnotyourmother · Aug 27, 2008, 02:32 PM // 14:32

Your views lack a true sense of logic. I especially enjoyed the notion that you can not find any words to express your feelings other then the over used F--- word.

Fact: The average American has a vocabulary of 3000 words.

The educated American uses 5000 words in their vocabulary.

Winston Churchill had over 15,000 words in his vocabulary. This does not include other languages that he spoke.

My point. You are unreasonable and an antidisestablishmentarian. So look that word up. It is way better than saying f--- Y---.

Edit: I'll give you a hint. It is the longest word in the English language.

carnage-runner · Aug 27, 2008, 02:47 PM // 14:47

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Originally Posted by imnotyourmother

Your views lack a true sense of logic. I especially enjoyed the notion that you can not find any words to express your feelings other then the over used F--- word.

Fact: The average American has a vocabulary of 3000 words.

The educated American uses 5000 words in their vocabulary.

Winston Churchill had over 15,000 words in his vocabulary. This does not include other languages that he spoke.

My point. You are unreasonable and an antidisestablishmentarian. So look that word up. It is way better than saying f--- Y---.

Edit: I'll give you a hint. It is the longest word in the English language.

You would use that word you RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing retard. Go look it up yourself before making yourself feel smart. All it actually means is your apposed to the withdrawl of state recognition of a church. You stupid wannabe. Go learn the english language before you utter another sylable you degenerate punk. And by the way i'm an athiest so I am for the removal of the state's recognition of a church, if there is such a thing in this day and age.

Local Chat off---->Filter on/F12

Koudelka · Aug 27, 2008, 03:01 PM // 15:01

EDIT: Really can't be asked to argue this and continue this flame war. Just close / delete...